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Flavio Lorenzelli
2006-03-21 16:59:55 UTC
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Happy Birthday, Sebastian.
Zach
2006-03-21 20:18:37 UTC
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Post by Flavio Lorenzelli
Happy Birthday, Sebastian.
Happy Birthday Herr Bach!

Zach
Charles
2006-03-21 23:30:34 UTC
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Post by Zach
Post by Flavio Lorenzelli
Happy Birthday, Sebastian.
Happy Birthday Herr Bach!
Happy Birthday Herr Compositeur to His Polish Majesty's Cappelle Bach!


Charles
Passacaglia88
2006-03-22 17:59:30 UTC
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Yeah, glücklichen Geburtstag Herr Kapellmeister! :)
PowerPiano17
2006-03-22 21:37:26 UTC
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Happy Birthday, Johann!
Hans-Joachim Roehrs
2006-03-23 18:55:39 UTC
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I'm sorry, the situation is a bit more complicated, than it looks like:

Bach indeed was born on March 21, 1685 in Eisenach, but not on 'our'
21st of March, due to the fact, that the protestant Germany left the
Julianic Calendar not earlier than in the year 1700. So Bach's
'original' birthdate is a Julianic one, while we use the Gregorianic
calendar system. The difference between both systems was computed at
Bach's lifetime to 10 days. Thus we have to celebrate JSB's historically
correct birthday on (our) March 31st....

Almost all protestant German countries changed their still Julianic
calendar in Febrauary/March 1700 to the Gregorianic system (March 1st -a
Monday- followed February 18th -Sunday Invocavit- as a regular
weekday), which confronted Bach not only with10 lost days of his life,
he died 1750 subsequently under a Gregorianic date and prepared around
the calendar break 1700 for his last days in Ohrdruf and for his
departure to Lüneburg, to initiate a probably extraordinarily important
phase in his career as a young, gifted musician.

Hans-Joachim
Zach
2006-03-25 02:58:15 UTC
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Post by Hans-Joachim Roehrs
Bach indeed was born on March 21, 1685 in Eisenach, but not on 'our'
21st of March, due to the fact, that the protestant Germany left the
Julianic Calendar not earlier than in the year 1700. So Bach's
'original' birthdate is a Julianic one, while we use the Gregorianic
calendar system. The difference between both systems was computed at
Bach's lifetime to 10 days. Thus we have to celebrate JSB's historically
correct birthday on (our) March 31st....
Almost all protestant German countries changed their still Julianic
calendar in Febrauary/March 1700 to the Gregorianic system (March 1st -a
Monday- followed February 18th -Sunday Invocavit- as a regular
weekday), which confronted Bach not only with10 lost days of his life,
he died 1750 subsequently under a Gregorianic date and prepared around
the calendar break 1700 for his last days in Ohrdruf and for his
departure to Lüneburg, to initiate a probably extraordinarily important
phase in his career as a young, gifted musician.
Fascinating! Danke Hans-Joachim! What day in our Gregorian calendar
would Bach's day of death (temporal of course only!) be if converted
over from the original Julian calendar date?

Zach
John Briggs
2006-03-25 09:02:35 UTC
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Post by Zach
Post by Hans-Joachim Roehrs
Bach indeed was born on March 21, 1685 in Eisenach, but not on 'our'
21st of March, due to the fact, that the protestant Germany left the
Julianic Calendar not earlier than in the year 1700. So Bach's
'original' birthdate is a Julianic one, while we use the Gregorianic
calendar system. The difference between both systems was computed at
Bach's lifetime to 10 days. Thus we have to celebrate JSB's
historically correct birthday on (our) March 31st....
Almost all protestant German countries changed their still Julianic
calendar in Febrauary/March 1700 to the Gregorianic system (March
1st -a Monday- followed February 18th -Sunday Invocavit- as a
regular weekday), which confronted Bach not only with10 lost days of
his life, he died 1750 subsequently under a Gregorianic date and
prepared around the calendar break 1700 for his last days in Ohrdruf
and for his departure to Lüneburg, to initiate a probably
extraordinarily important phase in his career as a young, gifted
musician.
Fascinating! Danke Hans-Joachim! What day in our Gregorian calendar
would Bach's day of death (temporal of course only!) be if converted
over from the original Julian calendar date?
Bach died under the Gregorian Calendar - the American colonies were still
using the Julian Calendar (July 17th), but the West Coast (being Spanish)
was presumably using the Gregorian Calendar. If you wish to carry on using
the Julian Calendar you have to allow for leap-year days in 1800 and 1900,
as well as 1700.
--
John Briggs
Flavio Lorenzelli
2006-03-31 23:30:16 UTC
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Post by Hans-Joachim Roehrs
Bach indeed was born on March 21, 1685 in Eisenach, but not on 'our'
21st of March, due to the fact, that the protestant Germany left the
Julianic Calendar not earlier than in the year 1700. So Bach's
'original' birthdate is a Julianic one, while we use the Gregorianic
calendar system. The difference between both systems was computed at
Bach's lifetime to 10 days. Thus we have to celebrate JSB's historically
correct birthday on (our) March 31st....
Almost all protestant German countries changed their still Julianic
calendar in Febrauary/March 1700 to the Gregorianic system (March 1st -a
Monday- followed February 18th -Sunday Invocavit- as a regular
weekday), which confronted Bach not only with10 lost days of his life,
he died 1750 subsequently under a Gregorianic date and prepared around
the calendar break 1700 for his last days in Ohrdruf and for his
departure to Lüneburg, to initiate a probably extraordinarily important
phase in his career as a young, gifted musician.
Hans-Joachim
Hans-Joachim, of course that's true. But I will still celebrate his
birthday on March 21. I am sure that, if asked, he would have said his
birth date was March 21, 1685.

Flavio

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